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The Paradoxes of Racial Justice Work with Susan Sturm

Jill Wener·Jul 8, 2025· 2 minutes

What are some of the paradoxes of racial justice work? Why is it important to recognize those paradoxes so we can navigate them?

In this series on healthcare and social disparities, Dr. Jill Wener, a board-certified Internal Medicine specialist, anti-racism educator, meditation expert, and tapping practitioner, interviews experts and gives her own insights into multiple fields relating to social justice and anti-racism.

In this episode, Jill interviews Prof. Susan Sturm of Columbia Law School. They explore the importance of community and context and doing the challenging work of racial justice. Prof. Sturm shares examples of how the work of racial justice lifts all of us up, not just people who are impacted by racism and oppression, and the importance of using the platforms and privilege that we have.

Susan Sturm is the George M. Jaffin Professor of Law and Social Responsibility and the founding director of the Center for Institutional and Social Change at Columbia Law School. Her work focuses on building the capacity of people and institutions to reduce discrimination, confront racism, transform the justice system, and move toward full participation in educational, legal, and cultural institutions.

Along with numerous scholarly publications, Professor Sturm is the author, with Lani Guinier, of Who’s Qualified: A New Democracy Forum on the Future of Affirmative Action. Her new book, entitled What Might Be: Confronting Racism to Transform Our Institutions, was published in February 2025 by Princeton University Press.

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